#first three protags just chillin

[shitpostingkats]

There's a lot of old unfinished works on my phone, and it just occurred to me that I want them archived somewhere! Have two years of old sketches, designs, and paintings! Remember not to judge yourself just by the drawings you finish, your skill is also equally built on all those abandoned projects sitting in your gallery somewhere <3

[asteraws]

Christmas in Wyndon!!!

[raguna-blade]

Bored, and reading a bit of persona wiki stuff bout Nyarkylumps and Phil. Been a spell since either of them made a major play in the series, in a direct overt sense, so it’s kind of weird that the big good and bads of the series kinda took a back seat.

So my thought, based on loose understandings of the the first three (P1,2IS and 2EP) is that the reason they haven’t really shown back up yet, is kinda two fold.

1, they totally have, just in relatively lesser forms. Nyar is supposed to be all the evils of mankind right? In basically every persona game since, that’s what you’ve been fighting. Or rather, a Singular Evil of mankind, some negative aspect of them pumped up to 11 that is still, rather understandably, completely apocalyptic still. Philemon in turn sends 1(One) single Wildcard user with velvet room after them, cause fairs fair, gotta stick to the rules and all.

2, loose understanding strikes again, but didn’t nyar get punted back into the collective unconscious full stop? Like coming back from that’s hard. Probably a good thing no kind of jail break attempts have occurred whatsoever since then right. This would also kinda explain why in universe at least the parties haven’t had a mass of wild card types anymore. That level of shenaniganery would probably by default have to call for some all the worlds evils given so far each given protag more or less can snap at least one or two lesser evils like a kit kat by the end. Though, now that i wonder about it, this makes the velvet room attendants even weirder. Like the general vibe i’m getting is that the velvet room is some kind of actualizer for the collective unconscious right? Take the hidden and make it seen and all that. Igor, Big Neutral that he is, (I mean he treads good sure, but by rights he’s also not gonna step in beyond what help he already gives. I’d be zero percent surprised if he ALSO helped out a quote unquote evil wild card type.) more or less seems to be like...Well, actually seems to straight up be the levers and guide to it all (and given the way it’s framed in games 3-5, straight up helps the hero’s get in touch with the good and bad of themselves) so he’s more or less taking up a guide role, see the ways you can be good or evil, can give in or succeed. But then what the hell are the attendants? They’re referred to those who govern power right? If i’m remembering. And they’re also, each and everyone of them, stupidly powerful. But not in the ways that the protagonists are? It’s a singular power kind of deal. Not to mention they rock the shadow eyes. I half wonder if they’re supposed to be like, a portion of the Protag’s shadow that get’s split off (which has some interesting implications given the trend so far is universally the opposite gender as their guest, along with some romantic feelings/crushes/deep affection going on there, pretty much always)

If their relationship with their guests are that direct (not necessarily a shadow but)..oh.

Are they supposed to be Anima/Animus? Doing a quick wiki walk, that actually makes a kind of sense. They’re supposed to be, effectively, active guides and forms of the unconscious. Which, basically is what they are. A kin of shadows basically, one that is rational and thinking and full and not just an uninhibited mass of thoughts. Getting in touch with your opposite gendered one (technically both are possessed, but for jungian theory apparently getting in touch with the one opposite is the key since they have aspects that the other gender wouldn’t have.) results in a fuller stronger you. Which aligns with their social links which involve making very specific persona’s with specific abilities, basically coming to a closer cleaner stronger understanding of your myriad selves that exist within you, to get a better view of the real you. Of course, if they’re related to the Protags like that, it raises weird questions of chronology given that Margaret is the oldest but of the 4 is the second one active, but then they also seem to canonically exist outside of time in some respects so if they are directly tied to their guests in that way, it wouldn’t really matter cause lol timenanigans. Though, it could simply be a case of literally waiting for the right person, which would track too. They existed in the C.U. just chillin and suddenly, BAM.